Posts by Captain Obvious

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Here you go if this don't put a bad taste in your mouth nothing will

by oldflame in

http://killerspray.com/blog?post=teen.... document http://www.scribd.com/doc/6959970/rep.... http://killerspray.com/.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owfclg.... http://salmonwarrior.com/.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oasm71.... http://www.weathermodification.com/pr.... .

Captain Obvious

Ugh... Are you our resident NWO nut?

Nice to meet you... I was gonna read your thread, but I have a combo root canal/colonoscopy/hysterectomy to go to..

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MAYBE THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER READ

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

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[endif]i was just sent the article "creation declares the glory of god!

i think it might contain the stupidest paragraph i have ever read:.

Captain Obvious

Perry: that's good, I'm glad for you.

A few years ago my dad got one of those "magnetic bracelets" you can buy online. Two weeks later he is telling me about all of the benefits he gets from this wonderful bracelet! His shoulders and elbows aren't sore, he can lift more than normal and he had his season's best golf score yesterday.

Of course most rational people know "magnetic therapy" is a scam, but his claims are real. Does that make them true? We know his bracelet is real, and we know that it isn't making a lick of difference to his health. We can prove this, and in turn we can disprove his claims.

We do not know that god is real, and we also don't know what he would do if he were. Your claims are real, but they are not provable. You cannot prove god is real, and you cannot prove he has any effect on your life. To claim so would be circular.

My dad's claims, though disprovable, are more valid than yours.

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MAYBE THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER READ

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

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[endif]i was just sent the article "creation declares the glory of god!

i think it might contain the stupidest paragraph i have ever read:.

Captain Obvious

SBF: wrong again. What is considered "truth" is different for different people. Not everyone is privy to all of the same facts and information, and not everyone observes said facts and information from the same or even a similar viewpoint. A truth that is "Truth" for everyone all the time would be an absolute truth, something I'm sure you would agree is impossible.

When someone criticizes another's beliefs or acceptance of facts, it is not as much because they disagree with their own beliefs, as much as pointing out the inconsistencies of of someone's supposed "truth".

I believe something to be true because at this point in my life, with the information that is available to me, this is the decision I have made on the matter. If in the future something changes, I will have to be willing to consider that as well or else become willfully ignorant. When I have become ignorant, my viewpoint and opinion on "truth" will no longer be of any value.

Right now SBF we are criticizing your views because we see flaws in them, not because they oppose our own. To criticize you because you don't agree with me would be to give myself way too much credit. If you point out reasonable flaws in my reasoning, I am forced to reconsider my view.

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Fading fast children are starting to ask questions, need help.

by Crazyguy in

jw
friends

ok i have been fading fast, missed a lot of meetings over the past couple of months and the kids think its mostly do to my being busy with work.

this morning was probably the first sunday that i was home and could go but did not.

so my 8 year old asked me if i was going and why when i said no.

Captain Obvious

In any case, be honest with your kids. They don't deserve to be lied to. They also don't deserve to have their lives stolen by a cult.

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The Bizarre Free Will

by John_Mann in

two years before i left jw world i came to a strange conclusion about the jw cosmology and the free will doctrine.. basically i came to conclusion that satan is right about the universal sovereign issue.

and i came with that just only using jws premises, no outside apostasy.

i just told to my sister what she thought about it, and she said to me: dont tell anyone about this!.

Captain Obvious

Whew! Thanks for clearing up that you don't actually believe what you said.

You might enjoy Free Will by Sam Harris. He makes some really interesting statements about the myth of free will.

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had another conversation with my wife this morning

by Crazyguy in

she was getting already for service so i asked her "how do you do it?

" "how do you still go and do all this spiritual stuff now that you know that my research and letter to bethel shows that the jw religion denies us the messiah"?

she got all defensive and disagreed again with what i wrote to bethel and then i had to step in and tell her that its "its them that teaches that we don't have a mediator in christ and were not under the new covenant".

Captain Obvious

Crazyguy, you should know better than to challenge her directly. You only activate her cult personality and out her on her heels. Why put up a wall when you are trying to reach her? Of course it can be frustrating to be so patient. Remember all those creation debates we had a while back? Even when presented with irrefutable evidence, you were still unwilling to consider the fact that you were wrong. That is normal, that's how humans argue.

"When the other side fails to be affected by such good reasons, each side concludes that the other side must be closed minded or insincere.” - Jonathan Heidt.

Try casually asking her questions that will make her think and have more questions. Try to remember the way your brain would react when challenged on JW issues when you believed. You being wrong wouldn't make any difference to your believing that you were right.

Dont tell me you haven't read any of Steve Hassan's books yet......?

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watchtower tones down apostate talk at august 3rd convention!

by nowwhat? in

no mention of them being mentally diseased or using "lies" to deceive god's people, just that they are out to attract followers for themselves!.

p.s.

i was cringing at the thought of sitting for 3 1/2 hours for the afternoon session but fortunately my one kid got sick!!

Captain Obvious

So far, despite my efforts nobody has started to follow me as their religious leader. It's a real bummer.

We had our DC last weekend, it was the full on full strength hate speech. Made me sick. What changed this week?

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Losing my religion

by vikesgirl101 in

howdy!

i have been out of the jw's for about five years now.

it has been about four years since i've posted.

Captain Obvious

Try a science book or two! I recommend Why Evolution Is True by Jerry A. Coyne

You don't need a pastor or anyone else to tell you the truth

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Losing my religion

by vikesgirl101 in

howdy!

i have been out of the jw's for about five years now.

it has been about four years since i've posted.

Captain Obvious

Try a science book or two! I recommend Why Evolution Is True by Jerry A. Coyne

You don't need a pastor or anyone else to tell you the truth

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MAYBE THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER READ

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

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[endif]i was just sent the article "creation declares the glory of god!

i think it might contain the stupidest paragraph i have ever read:.

Captain Obvious

Why should respect be paid to religious "authorities"? By that do you mean the silly characters in the bible, or the pedophile loving modern day ones?

False comfort is just that... False.

Your assertion above that " Scientific beliefs must find a way to accommodate themselves with the secret knowledge of the heart" is the silliest thing I've read all day. Even worse than that WT quote above. WTF is "the secret knowledge of the heart"? Are you asserting that deep down we all know god is real but we make this shit up (along with the mountains of proven facts) so that we can do what we want? Are we making this up so we can ignore the bible's rules? You, sir, are the one making the supernatural claims, and inserting the supernatural into your observations. Nobody needs to disprove the supernatural.